I had thought using the Bacuai berries would be kind of cool, but then why didn't Iroh know what they exacly look like? Also I felt it was getting maybe a little bogged down with avatar refrences, which doesn't make sense in a game that's supposed to be set in the world.

The White lotus probibly does something that could easily help all players, but a strategy allows for using White lotus that more than compensates for helping the emeny?

I'm not sure I like the non-flower tiles as it seems to break the theme.

I like the non-flower tiles. I think you should keep them :)

I also like the non-flower tiles. The wheel in particular is shown on one of the screenshots in the "Rules Notes" section, and should be kept in some capacity. I haven't seen all of the episodes of Avatar that feature the game, so I don't know which tiles are mentioned or shown explicitly, but I think we should try to work them all in. I'm also very much inclined to make my own board, but it may be a while.... Thanks for the great site!

Thanks. I'm glad to provide a space for other members of the Order of the White Lotus.
Yeah, I wasn't really thinking about the fact that they are in there. I think mostly i'm overwhelmed with the rules I hastily added that don't seem to work and having too many rules worked in at once. I agree though that the non-flower tiles should stay.

I've been thinking about the White Lotus -- the current rule about it seems like it would be a good piece no matter what (all pieces within 3 spaces of it give you a point? of course it would be good to use).

Shouldn't it be something that *seems* trivial but can be the key piece in certain, very different strategies? Most people think it to be useless, after all, but those who know how to use it effectively can dominate.

An idea for this is maybe something like, all pieces on the same line as a white lotus piece (no matter how far away, so long as they're on one of the same lines) get an extra point for harmonies they are parts of and one less point for disharmonies, no matter who the tiles belonged to. This would make it very strategic in placing the piece; you can accidentally *give* your opponent points if you don't think carefully. But if you have a good strategy, you can give yourself more points and lessen your opponent's points.

Something like this would demonstrate the potential complexity of the white lotus piece and the amount of influence it can have over the game, but it also is a very simple rule whose power can be easily overlooked.

It seems like it would be nice if we could try to find an artist on maybe deviant art, to make really pretty artisic versions of each of theflower tiles- done in a way so that they work well with the game too.

Well i didn't really make really that artistic once but i'll try to find them again, the where on the harddrive of my burned down laptop

OR follow this link ;)

http://pai-sho.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/1172711-pai-sho-tiles