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harmony ring

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Note (by Cyril): This refers to the question on lotusgambit.pbworks.com whether the classic harmony system (below) or another one should be used.



Using a continuous chain instead of two separate systems (like Cyril's system, see below) has the advantage of being able to use all of your tiles instead of half. This allows making a harmony ring easier if playing by this way to win. I only use this way to win in white lotus gambit. white lotus gambit: Frank's ideas


Cyril's harmony system look the same in this form , except the harmonies are formed between tiles 2 spaces away instead of he tiles righ tnext to it. opposites are the same. this system is best if you want to win by capturing tiles to win.






Comments (7)

Cyril said

at 11:54 am on Oct 5, 2011

You're very right, although I guess it's simpler to form a harmony ring with my system ^^ As you have only two phases of color (red-red-red-white-white-white-...), you'd have to use 12 tiles for the ring, wouldn't you...? (without using the yellow area, i mean). In my system it's just Rhod-Lily-Rhod-Lily. For the harmony ring to be used as a leverage to control you opponent's play, it's neccessary for it to be simple in structure, or it would take too long to be built. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Frank said

at 4:49 pm on Oct 5, 2011

if you use my system you can use any of the tiles instead of just one set of them, enabling you to be able to use all white and red tiles to make it easier to make a chain. i guess you could use just rhod and lily to make a harmony ring, but you could do that with my harmony system too and use the rest of them. more tiles means more gameplay and after you run out of 1 set of tiles using your system, you would have to switch over to the next set. this would allow no one to be able to capture and both players would increase points dramatically unless someone saved up their special or elemental tiles. and if you are losing (shown by the fact that you ran out of tiles and your opponent didn't) your opponent could win very quickly.

with my system where all tiles can be used, this would never happen. allowing an even possesion of points and less of an advantage to whoever is in the lead.

Cyril said

at 7:45 am on Oct 6, 2011

Oh, YES! You are right of course. I made a mistake, you can build a harmony ring with 4 tiles in you system too, obviously, i thought it had to be one time around the whole circle which means 12 tiles, but I see. I'm beginning to like this system better than mine, lol. Let's discuss on that on Lotusgambit.
PS: Wy did you write that my syste is better for winning by capturing? It is, i guess, but with winning amounts less than 200 you'll never get to a situation where one player hasn't enough tils, i guess. Anyway, doesn't matter.

Frank said

at 10:39 am on Oct 6, 2011

well if you want to win by capturing and harmony opints, yours is best because if you only use one set of the tiles since you aren't trying to make points, you can use the second set as decoys to get the opponent to take them out leaving your original set free to focus on the important things like getting points and protecting harmony chains and clusters.

hope you understood that

Frank said

at 3:56 pm on Oct 6, 2011

i'd appreciate it if you didn't tell me one thing and write something else on the site. please just tell me what you think right away.

Cyril said

at 4:46 am on Oct 7, 2011

I did? I'm sorry. I guess you mean my other comment. I just wanted to express that I can't really decide which system would be suited better. Also, I quite changed my mind in the process, so my comments may seem a bit unclear, sorry for that.

Frank said

at 10:36 am on Oct 7, 2011

maybe the translation was a bit mixed up. sorry if that was the case

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